2008年11月26日

知然堂在蘑菇(Booday)Workshop-整理(三)

續前篇文章....

【Echo的分享】

Dear Syko:

Thank you for the wonderful tour (the workshop you led at MOGU shop two weeks ago).

About the homework "time", I want to find a way to express that sometimes people feel like time stops when losing something or someone, EX. death or breaking up with lover.

But I can't figure out how to express that state of mind by photos.

Do you have any suggestions?

The attatched please find my homework.

Thank you.

Have a nice day.

Sincerely,
Echo




Hi Echo,

Sorry for delaying your reply.

對不起這麼晚才回信。

I want to thank you much for sharing your images.

The moon image is very nice. It's beautiful and portrays strong feelings. Even without the moon, just the buildings with glowing windows is powerful.

我很感謝你與我們分享你的影像。有月亮的影像那張影像很美,也描繪出強烈的感覺。甚至如果在影像裡把月亮去掉,只有建築物窗戶透出的光,也非常有力量。

Photographs can be very expressive with full of emotion, but as I have mentioned during the workshop, you can not completely express how you feel only through a photographic image. With that in mind, to show "the feeling of time stopping" due to losing someone, we need to think about what that feeling really is.

攝影者有時會有充滿各種的情緒想要表達,但是如同我們在workshop裡提到的,你永遠也沒有辦法,在一張單薄的影像裡,完完全全地忠實表達你的思緒情感。把這個前提記住後,來想要表達因為失去某人而"時間彷彿靜止凝固的感覺",我們必須先分析一下,以這個說法來表達"時間彷彿靜止凝固的感覺"的背後真正意義為何。

(tracy:這是中英文用法和邏輯思考的不同。中文的"時間彷彿靜止凝固的感覺",若是已經在文中提到失去摯愛時,大家自然而然會想"永無止境""至死方休"之類的心碎。就像是佛家說的"無間",因為一直存在與活在某一種情緒裡,無法跳脫,永恆亦是無間。但是,在攝影裡,英文的時間靜止,就是基本上就是一個技術性的問題。看你是要哪個F Stop和快門是幾千分之一秒。還有,單單的"時間靜止",並不能表達喜怒哀樂。所以,syko會請你先分析,要表達的情緒是甚麼)

I'm sure you have heard people say photography stops time by capturing that particular moment of time, but that does not mean the photographs suggests "the feeling of time stopping".

我相信大家都聽過攝影師抓住特別的一瞬間的說法,但是,那並不表示"那一瞬間停止了"。攝影師抓到的,不是時間靜止,而是感覺停留。

When we lose someone, we feel empty, alone, lose of hope & inspiration. There is also disbelief (we don't believe that person is gone) especially with death. So, "the feeling of time stopping" may be more about lifelessness (no life, the end).

當我們失去某人時,我們感到空虛、孤獨、失去希望和動力。同樣的,也有一種拒絕去相信的情緒在,由其是面對他人的死亡。所以,在這裡,要表達的"時間凝固靜止"的感覺,或許是表達"沒有生命""死寂""結束"比較貼切。

If there is sense of life or motion in the picture, it suggests time. Which means, an image of something that does not show any sign of life would portray sense of timelessness.

如果在一個影像裡,出現了生命的跡象或是正在移動的物體,通常,那暗喻著時光輪轉。相反的,如果在一個影像裡,出現的是毫無生命的物體,那是不是表示著時間的凍結呢?

Example: The moon shot does show loneliness, emptiness and lack of motivation. But it also suggests life - by the lights and the moon. The lights suggest there are people in those rooms. I also think that man made objects are lifeless but nature has life. So, nature also suggests time, and I imagine the moon slowly rotating around the earth.

舉 例來說,月亮的這張影像,表達出了孤寂、空虛與缺乏動力,但是,在這張影像的一些元素,同樣也隱隱透出了生命的痕跡。例如,建築物裡透出的燈光和幾乎是圓 的月。這些燈光,告訴我這些建築物是有人的住的,有人打理的。同樣的,自然的景觀,總是令人想到生命與生生不息,尤其是月亮與公轉自轉的想法,更是與"正在進行中的時間"並行不悖。不過,人工的東西,是會容易讓人做"無生命""無生氣"的聯想。

(Tracy:當我們想要表達"死亡"或是"心哀"等情緒,或許可以選擇不要是暖色系的東西出現在我們的影像。如日光燈透出來的微綠光線與陰影,感覺比暖色燈的光寂寥多了。還有,豐滿的月亮比起淒淒慘慘的一片彎月,溫暖人心多了。)

For me, an example that shows "feeling of time stopping "would be an image of a room or a building without any sign of life. I also feel that color images portray more of life than B/W images. B/W images better portrays timelessness.

對我而言,如果要表達"時間靜止"的感覺,在一個不顯示出任何生跡象的房間或建築物,這種影像會切題許多。還有,使用彩色與黑白影像的比較,彩色的影像總是比較容易讓人感到有生命的存在。黑白影像比較容易傳達永恆、無間的感受。

Well, please let me know if this is helpful at all.

Or if you have any difficulties in understanding what I'm trying to say.

好了,如果我想說的仍舊難於理解或是還表達不夠清楚,請讓我知道。

Please take care and stay in touch.

望一切安好並保持聯絡

Syko

【Norma的分享】

1) 帶上瞳孔放大片需要近視的時間
2) 一個紅綠燈的時間
背後隱藏了多少拍照時間
3) 斑駁的椅子需要多久時間
4) 人類與馬桶相伴的時間是白開水
沒感覺 卻存在的很重要
如果說活到60歲的人與馬桶相處的時間累積起來是3年
那我可能要再乘以2
馬桶是我的好朋友
P.S 其實自己的作品不是很滿意
希望明天能見識到大家的並且互相交流
也希望有下次的作業可以繼續挑戰





以上是我們收到大家的拍攝練習,希望有更多人可以踴躍寄給我們你的創作。另外還有一位Baigo小姐的部落格,紀錄在上課當天用提供的小道具拍攝的課堂影像,非常感謝。

http://blog.yam.com/baigo/article/18142518

近期內將會整理知然堂在蘑菇的第二個workshop,自己動手做針孔相機。如果各位參加者有任何在workshop拍的影像,如大家努力裁紙試拍等,不介意share的話,也請寄到我們的信箱。

info@porque.biz 或是 porquebase@yahoo.com

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