2008年3月3日

第二次工作坊:傻瓜與不傻瓜

翻譯下面Syko post的:

“嗨!

我越是花時間探索台灣,越是確信這裡真的是一個棒的地方。在台灣有很多人努力的讓藝術存在於我們四周,或做一些自己深深相信且抱有熱情的事。但是,似乎缺乏足夠的管道與人際網絡。與他人連結,可以使靈感更加的被激發,也會彼此激勵更加有動力的去做我們相信的事情。

我依然不確定我們想要透過這些工作坊/聚會達成的目標會不會成功。有的時候我相信對你們某些人來說,我們有著很正面的影響力,但也有些時候,我會問我自己“我為什麼要做這些?“或“我是不是在白費力氣做一些徒勞無功的無聊事情?“


當然,偶爾對自己在做的事情產生懷疑是正常的。但最近,這個問題在我腦子裡冒出得有點太頻繁了。也許那是因為我想要看到進步,而我又缺乏耐心去等待看到影響力的發生。

不過,我還是要繼續做我相信是對的事情…

所以!下一次的工作坊,讓我們來聊聊以下的一些議題:

“傻瓜或不傻瓜“(原文:“快照Snapshot v.s.正式攝影“)– 在這個工作坊中,我所定義的“快照Snapshot“為:自發的且很快的拍下一張照片,這個拍攝的動作沒有藝術或技術的考量,而且用的是簡單的相機。
“正式攝影“在這裡的定義為:拍照事先有一個想好的點子或概念,有美學上的考量,技術上的能力,而且有意要創作出(一部份或完整的)作品。

1. 器材與態度
你在用傻瓜相機和“專業“相機時,你的態度是什麼?
當你被傻瓜相機拍攝時,和被專業的相機與“藍波“般的鏡頭拍攝時,你的感覺是什麼?

2. 誰是觀眾?
你為誰拍這個“快照“?
你又是為誰拍“正式“的照片?

3. 不同的美學
我們在第一次workshop已經談論過一些“美學Aesthetics“的概念。
我們如何去看待快照和正式攝影裡頭的美學價值?

4. 哪一個對攝影師來說比較有價值?為什麼?又是如何的有價值?
為什麼有些攝影師比較推崇快照?又為什麼有些攝影師覺得快照很隨便也很不成熟?

5. 為什麼這些“快照“可以在藝廊或是美術館展示?
我相信很多人也有相同的懷疑,甚至會說“那張照片看起來像是用Holga(或Lomo)拍的“
所以,為什麼這些快照可以進入正式的學術殿堂呢?

6. 快照的未來–最初是柯達的“布朗尼Brownie“相機,接著是拍立得的出現、即可拍、數位相機,然後是手機–下一個又會是什麼呢?

7. 應用於自己的作品中
什麼時候用“快照“或“正式攝影“比較適合?
這兩者可以兼顧嗎?如果可以的話,怎麼兼顧?

一些“快照“攝影師可先參考看看
Alfred Stieglitz
Walker Evans
Robert frank
Nan Golden
William Eggleston
Wolfgang Tillmans
Martin Parr
Terry Richardson
Corrine Day
我相信你們知道更多其他的藝術家,請帶著你們知道的作品來跟大家分享。

還有,如果你們已經報名的人知道你們將無法到場,請“儘速“告訴我們,這樣我們才可以趕緊邀請在候補名單上的人

謝謝,星期天見!

syko"

大家來之前可以先想一想,你是怎麼定義“snapshot(快照)“和所謂的“正式“攝影?
你各對他們抱有什麼不同的想法?對你來說有優劣之分嗎?你喜歡用哪一個創作?
在這裡Syko提供了他的定義,也是一個基準點,方便大家在來的時後討論。
當然這個定義也許會跟你的不一樣,那更好!我們一起來聊聊!
Syko提出的這些問題,我們會在工作坊中一一討論。鑑於上次有人反應太多問題要想,當場想不到或得花比較多時間才能夠釐清頭緒,因此這次我們先丟出一些會討論到的問題,讓大家可以早點準備。
又,我們這次的工作坊主要是討論,也歡迎大家帶著自己想要分享的東西來。如果有需要用電腦投影機的話,也請儘早告知。如果沒有人需要使用,我們可能當天不會特別準備。謝謝!

-hsuanx2

Workshop #2 "Snapshot vs. Formal"

Hello again everyone,

The more time I spend discovering Taiwan, the more I am convinced that this is an amazing place to be.
There are many people all around Taiwan trying to keep the arts alive, doing things they truly believe in and are passionate about.
But, it seems as though there isn't enough of networking going on.
By networking with others, we can be further inspired, motivated and encouraged to pursue our beliefs.

I'm still not sure that what we are trying to accomplish by organizing the workshops & gatherings is effective.
Sometimes I believe we are having a positive effect on some of you, but at times, I question myself "Why am I doing this?" and "Am I doing something that is in vain & futile?".

It's very normal for anyone to have doubts about their work once in awhile, but recently, this question popsup in my head more often than it should. Perhaps it's because I want to make progress and I'm impatient to see the effectiveness.

Regardless, I must continue with what I believe is the right thing to do...

So, for the next workshop, let's talk about the following issues surrounding the " Snapshot Vs. Formal Approach" - For this workshop, I am defining "Snapshot" as: A picture taken spontaneously and quickly without artistic intent and without technical concerns using simple cameras.
And "Formal" as: A picture taken with preconceived idea or concept, with aesthetic concerns, technical capabilities and with an intent to produce (a part or complete) body of work.

1. The Equipment & the Attitude.
What is your attitude when using a point & shoot camera vs. a "professional" camera?
How do people feel to be photographed by a point and
shoot camera vs. a "professional" camera with a "Rambo" lens?.

2. Who is the audience?
who are you taking the "snapshots" for?
who are you taking the "formal" shots for?

3. Aesthetic difference.
Since we know "Aesthetics" is more or less subjective,
how do we acknowledge the Aesthetic Value in snapshot and the formal?

4. Which one holds more value to the photographer? why & how?
Why do some photographers value snapshots more than others? Why do some photographers see snapshot as frivolous and immature?

5. How does snapshot fit into the galleries and museums?
I'm sure many of your have wondered as well by saying "that looks like it was shot with a Holga (or Lomo)".
So, how is snapshot accepted in a formal academic environment?

6. Future of snapshot- First was the roll film on a Kodak Brownie camera, then came the Polaroid cameras, disposable cameras, digital cameras, and mobile phone cameras - what will be next?

7. Applying the resources to our own work.
When is the "snapshot" or "formal" approach more appropriate?
Can "snapshot" and "formal" be combined? If so, how?

Few "snapshot" photographers to check out:
Alfred Stieglitz
Walker Evans
Robert frank
Nan Golden
William Eggleston
Wolfgang Tillmans
Martin Parr
Terry Richardson
Corrine Day
I'm sure you know many others, so please bring your resources to share.

Also, if anyone of you know that you will not be able to come, please let us know ASAP so that we can invite the people on the waiting list.
We will rearrange the room to make more space, and in the future, we will move to a bigger space to accommodate few more people.

Thank you all and see you on Sunday.

syko